Below is another installment of my comments from two weeks ago on a thread at Uncommon Descent, which I've been re-posting here.As the conversation wound down, I patiently endured the silly suggestion that my expressions of frustration amounted to my "reverting to a culture war mode" (huh??), then asked a question that summarizes one of my main objections to the ID movement: the arguments, all too often, add up to a debasing of "natural"